# The World Record Craps Roll

In one of your answers you state that the average number of rolls for a shooter in craps is 8. Well considering all the money on the table and 1 of the dealers screwing upthe payouts and the effort of the borgata box man trying to hit the dice with hishand so she would 7 out. Buy bets are placed with the shooter betting at a specific number will come out before a player sevens out. She did state this was only her second attemptto play the craps tables, and that with her winnings she was going to take her grandkidsto Disney World. Hands per Hour in Blackjack Players Hands per hour 1 2 3 4 84 5 70 6 60 7

## Average Craps Rolls Per Hour

I don't know the hold for any game. For the benefit of other readers, the hold percentage is the ratio of casino profit to chips purchased at the table. Since the same chips will circulate back and forth between the players and dealer for an unknown period of time, the mathematician has no way of calculating the hold or hold percentage. When reading literature about the formula casinos use to determine comps, the only formula I ever see used as an example is a formula for blackjack.

Assuming the casino determines your average bet by your spread, what formula is typically used by casinos to determine expected craps losses, which in turn, determines available comps. I asked my friend Larry Drummond, a craps dealer and former webmaster of Next Shooter for help on this question. Larry can be a bit abrasive but is a good source of hard to find information on craps. A player should get to know the Boxman. Now, I ask you If a smart boxman wants someone who is spending big bucks on ANY 7, the worst bet on the table Will you be doing a risk of ruin analysis for Craps?

The only analysis I have found online to date seemed to be flawed. There are so many betting patterns in craps that one analysis would only fit a small percentage of craps players. I think you may be the only honest expert on the internet. My question is this.

I know how odds are calculated in craps but I cannot shake the feeling that once a player gets up multiple bets, either through placing them or betting the pass line and making successive come bets, that the odds shift dramatically into the houses favor. It only takes one seven to wipe out all the bets at one time. In order to win, you must hit each number and after it is hit, a seven would wipe out the remaining numbers.

Thank you for the kind words. I still say that the house edge is not dependent on the number of come bets you make. Yes, it is depressing to establish one come point after another and then lose everything on a seven.

However there are other times when the shooter takes ages before rolling a seven and you win lots of come bets along the way. What is your opinion of Card Craps as played by many of the casinos in the San Diego area? In California dice alone can not be used to determine the outcome of a game. To get around this law many casinos use a hybrid of cards and dice, or cards only. My crap section now addresses some of the ways this is done. I realize that decisions per hour in games like blackjack and craps can depend heavily on factors like the number of other players at the table, the hand shuffle vs.

Still, I was curious if you could give me a rough approximation of how many decisions per hour an individual can expect at a mostly-full craps table and a blackjack table with both a hand shuffle and machine shuffle. This would help me estimate my expected loss per hour and weigh it against the comps I am being offered. Hands per Hour in Blackjack Players Hands per hour 1 2 3 4 84 5 70 6 60 7 Rolls per Hour in Craps Players Rolls per hour 1 3 5 7 9 11 Spins per Hour in Roulette Players Spins per hour 1 2 76 3 60 4 55 5 48 6 You could do a tournament.

Every player will buy in for the same amount of non-cashable chips. Establish somebody to be the banker, paying off bets as in normal craps. Whoever has the most chips after some benchmark, for example x 7-outs, wins the pool. Since you will have an even chance with everybody else, I think it would be okay to ask for tips for the use of your house. Just wanted to know if you knew where the majority of casinos here in Vegas buy their craps tables. And if these companies sold their tables to the public?

They probably do sell to the public. If a used one will suffice, the Gambler's General Store sells used tables. According to the the Bone Man at NextShooter. One Tub at Wild, Wild West probably open only evenings, weekdays, and on weekends. One Tub at Ellis Island probably open only evenings, weekdays, and on weekends.

Interestingly, the expected number of rolls for a point is exactly 6. So the percentage of come out rolls is 2. I am wondering which will come up more rolling a pair of dice — an odd or even total?

By simply short changing the player one chip when he wins, the casinos have discretely created their edge on this bet. Frank Scoblete says it best: The casinos bank on this fact day in and day out. Not really, because the number of times a bet wins or loses per unit of time has not been factored into the equation. Think about it for a minute. Is the number of times you win or lose a pass line bet per hour the same or different then say a field bet?

How about a bet on any craps or the place bet on the 6? In fact they are not the same. The cost per hour is just what its name implies. You can expect in most well run games the dice will roll about times per hour.

The number of pass line decisions that occur in those rolls is Therefore the cost per hour is simply. By doing similar calculations for every bet you can compute each bet cost per hour and then rank them Table 2.

Such is the case with the hardway bet on the 6 and 8. Even though the bet is ranked low in Table 1 because of its high casino edge, it suddenly becomes a better bet when you look at its cost per hour ranking in Table 2.

Take a look at the hourly cost of some of the proposition bets in Table 2. If you like to bet the field, please do so in a casino which pays double on the 2 and triple on the Also note how the place bet on the 6 and 8 ranks high in both tables.

If you like betting on the numbers you better pay close attention to Table 2. The numbers clearly show how much more it will cost you to buy a number vs. Keep in mind that the cost per hour calculations and rankings in Table 2 is based on a specific bet size. You must also keep the cost per hour rankings in perspective.

So what about the odds bet which is noticeably missing from Table 2?